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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ArmenTheHeli, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. ArmenTheHeli

    ArmenTheHeli Member

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    Can staff do of the banning without of the screensharing first to check claims?

    I told a staff member that I was hacking with the wurst client then she banned me without SS. Please explain. Only thing in rules about screenshare is that refusal gives punishment, but the staff never asked to ss. (Please note that I was banned on June 27 of 2017) That is all
     
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    They can ban without screensharing if there is definitive proof of a player hacking. I'm not sure if the rules about admitting to hacking as a joke or otherwise changed since I was staff but it used to be players saying they were hacking would be ignored or checked at most, current staff would have to provide clarification on that.
     
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    Well, coming from an Ex Staff view on this,
    It honestly depends. Let's say the staff comes to you and hypothetically says "Hey we (staff) think you're hacking, anything to say", and you say something along the lines "yes", then yea they can for admitting. Another thing is like Valp said, if there was already proof and you say that you are hacking, then yes they can also ban. Although, if you just randomly go to a staff and say "I'm hacking!", I really doubt they'd ban for that :p
     
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    Yeah, being a prior Senior Moderator, I second this; except for one thing. They can't ban you unless they have proof, and I personally don't recall a case where they ever banned for admitting, unless it was during a screenshare. If you were pulled aside to be asked if you were hacking due to suspicion, or some sort of formal situation where they essentially sat you down to talk to you, it's not possible that you would've been banned for that; however if you were hacking and there was video evidence, or if we pretend it was a ban for something unrelated to hacking, then it would make sense that you were banned with confusion of why you were banned. In review, no one could've banned you for admitting since you claimed there was no screenshare, so I highly suggest creating a support ticket so staff can assist you futher, since only the person who banned you will be able to aid you the most!

    What we can do for you is send you a link to the support tickets for punishment appeals, and be sure to say that you'd like to see evidence, and refrain from being disrespectful to the staff member(s), because your attitude can indeed alter the length of your ban if there is evidence of you hacking. What I mean by that is if you were toxic (as an example) and you were banned for hacking, you yelling at a staff member or cussing them out could have you banned longer than if you were hacking and apologized, saying you won't do it again and asking if there is anymore you can do to keep yourself following the rules in the future. Allow me to send you the link, and I wish you good luck!

    Link: https://havocmc.net/support/open

    @ArmenTheHeli @BenGermann @Kendrq @Valp
     
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    Why did you tell them you were hacking in the first place?
     
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  6. Katitude

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    From what he says, it seems that he was making a joke.
     
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    It’s like going to the police and saying I have a bomb or something.
     
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    you'd still get arrested for that
     
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    Wasn't 5oup banned for telling some guy he duped a while ago?
     
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  11. DeleteThisAcc

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    The context here is a bit different, there was a known dupe glitch going on at the time that a lot of other people were banned for and he was discussing duping in pms with another player.
     
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    The question is, why would you wait a year to tell people you think it was wrong, or were you actually hacking. Mhmm.
     
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    Here's a few answers:
    He knew appealing wouldn't get him anywhere, since Mackiee obviously thought he was hacking, and probably wouldn't unban him.
    He's mentioned it on the forums more than once since he was banned.
    Hackers generally don't announce that they're hacking in general chat unless they're about to be SSed, or have alts.
    He may not have appealed simply because he didn't care about playing on the network.

    Should answer most of the questions
     
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    Because Havoc was problematic back then, but from what I heard its not as problematic now
    All of the above is pretty much spot on, then again I told you about it so :p

    (See below)
    Thanks for answering his question, I didn't see any of this thread until I checked it just now :)

    I wasn't asked, I just blurted it in chat a few times because why not. Unrelated note, but why you leave staff bb
     
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    Then from what you're saying is just saying out loud in chat, then no, you cannot get banned for that. Unless ofc they asked you during a SS, but you said it wasn't. As for the unrelated note, it was because I asked a Sr Mod if I could have a cookie and they said no, so I left c:
     
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    @ArmenTheHeli have you created a support ticket yet? That is the best option for you, from what I've seen.
     
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    I'll give you a cookie if you give me a piece of bread
     
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    Already made a ticket, idk if it will get noticed though. Not a big deal I guess, but id still like to know
     
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    You admitted to using Wurst then toggled your kill aura that was pretty blatant. I don't know why you're trying to start drama on a public Minecraft forum about it now. I'd unban you no problem, but if you're now trying to cause issues. Maybe you will be a toxic person to come back to our community.
     
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    I remember you did a drop party, and everything beforehand and then toggled it. I'm honestly quite entertained by the argument you're presenting. You used this client to have a reason for me to ban you.
     
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